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Thoughtful commentary by thoughtful, thinking men.

I’ve been knee deep in family celebrations and get togethers for the past little bit. Perhaps there will be more on that at a later date, but I took a bit of time to catch up on some of the writers that haven’t been winnowed from my formerly way-too-long reading list. Some of these are worth sharing. Some I fully agree with and others I appreciated for the opportunity to think about the implications. In no particular order:

To say that Garvey’s Ghost has been on a roll the past few posts would be an understatement. I really enjoy this guy. He thinks, and he makes sense, and even on the rare occasion when I have a quibble (for instance, I am just not into Pan-Africanism), I click away from his stuff with something to consider that is off the left or right’s beaten path.

Next up is Doug Wilson’s thoughts on using profanity. I *get* where he coming from here. I really do, and although I battle with cussing in my head at times, it is extremely rare for a cuss word to come out of my mouth. My husband, who can be pretty incisive with his words, and is known not to pull a verbal punch, finds profanity problematic as well. The difference is that rather than it being indicative of someone’s lack of love for the Lord, he sees it as a lack of ability to think well or quickly enough to convey the depth of one’s convictions or perspective without it.

I’m not particularly moved by squeaky clean language coming from a snooty, snobby, self-righteous person. I’m so over propriety draped over feigned piety that I could spit, and someone who uses a cuss word here or there -unless the setting or situation is wholly inappropriate- doesn’t really bother me all that much. It certainly doesn’t mean they’re a Hell-bound sinner. I said Hell. Is that permissible?

Buried in the comment thread of Doug Wilson’s post was a comment tangentially related to the subject matter, but this guy’s words resonated with me so deeply that I think they bear repeating for their spiritual value. It is this very conviction which has completely overhauled the way I view people. More importantly, the way I speak to and of them:

Over the last couple of years I’ve learned a lot more about how sinful I really am. The part that scares me is not that I sin, but that I don’t fully desire to be rid of it. I do at times, but at others I make accommodations for it’s presence. I’m not sure I know the difference between personal disappointment and disgust, and real repentance.

Yes, brother, whomever you are. I know exactly what you mean. If there’s any good from it, it’s that it keeps my heart tender towards others. Saints who know they are also sinners tend to be less snobby. Or we should be.

Lastly is a C.S. Lewis piece that I was reminded of by a commentator at Zippy Catholic’s. I cannot recall which post this was buried in, but the portion from Lewis they quoted was this bit:

Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes, or film-stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. Fur spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison.

I was motivated to go re-read the entire article which I hadn’t read in at least a decade, and it was well worth the re-read. Lots of good stuff there, regardless of whether or not you agree with the thrust of Lewis’ argument:

Well, between the reading and the writing of this post, lunch break has gone way over. If I was on somebody’s job, I’d be losing money.

Enjoy the rest of your day. All 15 of ya.

 

 

 

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10 thoughts on “Thoughtful commentary by thoughtful, thinking men.”

  1. I just had another thought that can be logged under, *Eye roll*, “Here’s Els with another ‘my husband is so cool…’ moment”. But it’s true.

    I hear him have conversations with men who use profanity all the time (he works with lots of men in a male dominated industry) and never blinks an eye. Never comes home and complains about the way they talk or their jokes, or any of that. His views on profanity are just that- his views.

    And despite the slippery slope, “Christians-are-looking-for-a-way-out-of-sin-not-in” argument, there are some good thoughts in the comments of the Doug Wilson piece concerning being too quick to judge the veracity of the Scriptures quoted using profanity (as defined by 21st Century Western Christianity) as the standard.

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  2. Regarding the issue of “swear words” and cursing, take a close look at Strong’s 2671 (the word used in James 3:10). Its meaning, and application, are a lot broader than “don’t use Anglo-Saxon words.” In fact, we might even note that if not all such words tend to actually “curse” someone, they might not even be covered by James 3:10.

    http://biblehub.com/greek/2671.htm

    Not that we ought to cuss a blue streak or anything, but I’m not persuaded that this is specifically what James 3:10 and other passages talking about unclean speech are really referring to.

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  3. Yes, he is totally cool. I had an epiphany about him (or about me, or maybe about love) today. Might do a mini-post. I think you’ll like it.

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  4. Good thoughts Bike. Like you, I’m not at all advocating “cussing a blue streak”. It’s just another one of those issues where it’s not really an issue. Been in and around church people all my life. Very few cuss at all and the ones who did/do only do so very occasionally anyway. Usually when they are very angry.

    I was thinking about the fact that my husband (despite his very *adventurous* pre-married life) never really used profanity very much. Then I remembered that when he got angry at the level where most people would start to swear, he didn’t use his words.

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  5. On the subject of the Google manifesto guy who Garvey’s Ghost wrote about:

    I read the manifesto over lunch, after my daughter read it on her lunch break and sent it to me.

    This poor young guy was tripping over himself NOT to sound sexist or “non-inclusive”. He was just being honest and relaying what most of know is common sense.

    No good deed goes unpunished…

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  6. I am getting a huge smile out of how, shall we say, SAM avoided cussing. My wife had a coworker/friend from Detroit whose family would, prior to Christ, discuss matters in a Louisville Slugger sort of way. Enjoying this brother, we were glad that it was that and not Smith & Wesson, and gladder that his bones and head had survived pretty well. (he had my mother’s maiden name, so we joked we were cousins, too)

    Yet another thing that one can’t discuss at Google. :^) Seriously, I wonder if he’d still be there if he’d not published it openly and named his employer. Companies will tolerate many things if they’re not embarrassed. (example; my dad worked with a transsexual back in the 1970s…people at the company and at customers simply knew “shim” was good at what s/he did and “shim” did not embarrass anyone)

    Put differently, there are a few things that I know my employers have needed to hear, but I refrained from saying simply because I knew it would not be heard.

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  7. Enjoying this brother, we were glad that it was that and not Smith & Wesson, and gladder that his bones and head had survived pretty well.

    Amen. There are a lot of things which could have gone wrong. Hair trigger tempers can get you in a heap of trouble. In fact my husband- before he surrendered to Christ- said that the reality of knowing that I (and our daughter) was depending on him made him realize that if he didn’t abandon the life and the streets that he had quite the reputation in, he was probably going to end up dead. Thank God for His mercy!

    You should read the misnamed “anti-diversity” manifesto, Bike. It’s a quick read and is not even close to being as offensive as the MSM made it seem. This guy was trying to figure out how to get women into tech, but cautioning that making that the priority over Google’s bottom line and prime objectives would be bad for business.

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  8. I had, but re-read it; and it seems that Google did a great job proving his point, didn’t they? I’m still thinking he might have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been connected with his employer, though. As it is, Google’s done a valuable service for prospective employees–they know that if they’re anything but progressive in all the right ways, they’re likely to be canned. For that matter, since progressive ideology changes rapidly, even being progressive in all the right ways probably isn’t a defense.

    The new “Netscape”, I dare say.

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